I thought Ford owns Cummins Why don't they start putting those in Fords.

Posted by: sherif | March 27, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Just put a Cummins in that thing...!!! A Cummins with a 6-speed auto behind it would be a dream come true.

Posted by: Brian | March 27, 2007 at 9:36 PM

Ford doesn't own one share in Cummins. They wish!

Go to Cummins.com and read the FAQ. It's right there.

Posted by: Bob | March 28, 2007 at 1:44 AM

Bob

I looked hard, but I couldn't find anything on their site.

Posted by: Wayne | March 28, 2007 at 9:02 AM

Type "cummins faq ford owns cummins" into google. It pops up several links to point you in the right direction.
http://www.cummins.com/na/pages/en/products/dodgeram/faq/answers.cfm?uuid=000C518F-094B-1E31-850880C4A8F00000

Posted by: Bob | March 28, 2007 at 12:12 PM

We owned a 6.0 and it doesn't surprise me We used to be ford people now we own 2 dodge vehicles and couldn't be happier. We were very loyal ford people

Posted by: stewtina | March 29, 2007 at 2:48 PM

FORD DOES NOT OWN CUMMINS FOR PETE SAKE! IN FACT, CUMMINS HOLD 3% SHARHOLD OF FORD STOCK. IF I HEAR THAT AGAIN I SWER IM GONNA PUKE.

Posted by: RICH A | March 30, 2007 at 8:03 AM

According to
http://www.sintercast.com/data/content/DOCUMENTS/200431814827451automotiveengineer0702.pdf
All new PowerStrokes might be made of CGI. The same material Ford is using in both the 2.7-litre V6 and the 3,6-litre V8 in the UK. It is told that a 4.4-liter derivate is close to introduction.. It will have around 330 hp and 700 Nm of twisting torque.
Looks like Navistar is going to take this to the wire...may be it thinks it has the upper hand....Ford wants its engines.....on the other hand, Ford may be having difficulty selling trucks at present so can withstand a lull in supply.

Perhaps the Ford 4.4-litre engne is nearer than we think ........ Maybe Ford wants an excuse to end its marriage with Navistar

Something is going to happen. Could be quite exciting. Just as life was beginning to look dull, here comes a big bang

Posted by: Casting in Cleveland? | April 01, 2007 at 11:41 AM

Here's the definitive answer on the much-discussed Cummins-Ford relationship from Cummins' investor relations staff. Ford owned 1.3 million shares of Cummins, but Cummins re-purchased those shares from Ford in 1997.

Posted by: Michelle Krebs | April 03, 2007 at 5:29 AM

Hello Guys,
Don't know anything about diesel engines, thinking of buying a diesel truck and a mid size 5th wheel, like to know who has the best diesel engine(s)? and who has the overall truck/engine package considering COMFORT, TOWING POWER, and FUEL ECONOMY many thanks.

Al

Posted by: Allan | April 07, 2007 at 7:44 AM

I am purchasing a 2008 Ford F-350 6.4 diesel 4 x 4 Lariat

With all the new emissions regulations will this decrease the fuel economy of this motor in

relaton to the Navistar 7.3 diesel motor?

Posted by: Don Oliphant | April 20, 2007 at 8:53 AM

Sad to see ford's new truck going through this heck, with all that alleged testing how could this happen? If the ford company is reduced anymore, they are finished. GM is forging ahead, too. I like all domestic brands but I will never set foot in an import dealer you can mark my words. It bothers me how they want to use V8 diesels instead of inline sixes, but they use V8's because theyre easier for emissions crap and things and take up less length. Still doesn't seem worth it to me... They should get on the horn with CAT and design an engine.

Posted by: miKe | April 20, 2007 at 2:04 PM

I am a former Detroit Diesel Employee that now works for a Cat Dealer. I own a Ford currently that has been the worst vehicle I have owned since a 1977 Chevy Blazer which topped the list for just plain junk. Rumer has it that Ford and Cat have been talking and if that happens I'll buy Ford again ....... If Not in May 2008, I'll buy Dodge, only because I have never owned a Dodge and have nothing good or bad to say about them and my company will not allow me to own the best truck .......... you guessed it ........ Toyota. My company pays me for my vehicle and hates Toyota.

Posted by: Ricto h Descoteaux | May 27, 2007 at 2:45 PM

I got a 7.3 p/s (2002) & I got a 6.0 p/s (2003).
I love the 7.3 and I' thinking of driving the 6.0 through the plate glass show room window and let it land on the (local Ford dealership owner) Mr. Lin's personal GT 40. CHING TAO!
How's that? The Toyota man owns a Ford dealership.

Posted by: Matt1 | June 05, 2007 at 10:10 AM

1 have a ford f 250 6.0 disel and i love it i sooner push a ford then drive a toyota

Posted by: dave | June 25, 2007 at 5:45 PM

GM Makes the best diesel/ tranny combo in a truck, you just can't beat the dmax and alison combo. I don't care what Ford puts in there trucks! I do like the Dodge Cummins though, it's just ashame it's surrounded by a bunch of other crappy parts. I owned a 2006 2500 Heavy Duty Dodge and it had many lil problems like the ac stopped working, and not to mention it had the most harsh ride I ever drove. I also have a 2005 E250 Company van with the 5.4 and it also has many problems since new. But I don't like the styling of the 2007 model chevy, except the dually, They should have put the front clip that's on the 07 Tahoe on the pickups. Also why aren't the Big 3 making v6 Diesels for 1/2 ton's?

Posted by: TK | July 21, 2007 at 10:30 AM

what I don't get is that with all of Ford motors resources and such that they need such a large displacement to achieve sucting h meager numbers. 350 hp is not anything to brag about from 7.3 liters. the torque isn't either, since the tdi audi 4.2 diesel extracts almost the same torque with about 3 liters less ? I know that we can do just as good as this, but why not? maybe ford should spend less money on ads and more in real r and d on 4 liter blocks with same output. I think we could be as good as the Germans, but no us automaker cares about maybe buildig a good smaller engine. it is always easier just to make a 7.3 liter monstrocity ( which is really front heavy also) as opposed to making a real machine like vag group can. we can also but why not?

Posted by: frank kurchina | August 13, 2007 at 2:29 PM

I have been a dodge person for many years. I now own a 2005 cummins 3/4 ton. I love the motor however I am having huge front end issus, vibrations to new barings, tie rods and ends, dual stabilizers and the dealer still cant figure out what the problem is. I have started looking for a new truck, I want the cummins motor but do not want the dodge headaches anymore. I would love for ford to put the cummins in their trucks, I would buy one today. Can anyone tell me if you can special order a ford with a cummins motor?

Posted by: Danny Bryan | September 09, 2007 at 10:39 AM

Sound like I am having the same problems like everyone else. 6.0 f350 just out of the blue sounded like the rods were all coming through the hood, good oil pressure, and plenty of oil, matter of fact rechecked the next morning before starting it and it actually had to much oil showing on the stick. when leaving for the dealer ship truck was vibrating etc , power falling off. All servicing has been c/w by the dealer as scheduled. I may have to go back to a gas motor or a chevy.

Posted by: warren richardson | September 20, 2007 at 11:24 AM

I'm only junior in high school but i want a ford truck with a diesel engine and from what im gathering here the older 7.3 liter one is the best one of the three is that true.

Posted by: Julian | October 16, 2007 at 5:06 PM

2005 f-350 6.0 stroke. I haul alot of cross country loads and i say the same thing as everybody else..... cummins in my ford would be perfect. truth is, you can have a cummins in your ford, it'll only cost you about $10,000 installed. I don't know about yall, but if i had that kind of money i'd sell my ford and buy 2 new dodges. but i dont so i'll just settle with having more comfort...less power. if you want a cummins, buy a dodge and quit bitchin, if you want a ford, just go out and get you a 7.3 with a tow chip. unfortunately, they don't make a perfect all around truck. you just gotta sacrifice either power,,quality,,mileage,,or comfort.

Posted by: cody lorance | November 05, 2007 at 8:07 PM

Have a beauty of a White with Dark Gray trim and lots of chrome. 2008 F250 XLT SD Crew Cab Loaded with the 6.4 diesel in it. Only 5200 miles on it and had a financial hardship hit. Gave 51K and having to eat a lot to move it but will sacrifice at 45K. Hate to sell but anyone interested you got a sweet deal. SE Ga area. 912-245-2661.

Posted by: Elaine Lariscey | November 09, 2007 at 5:49 AM

As a 23 year customer that has owned 8 Ford trucks this last truck I own which is a 2005 F550 with a 6.0 liter diesel, this truck started letting me down at 15,000 miles as of right now with 68,000 miles this truck has been on the back of a wrecker 10 times. Ford says this truck has not been broke down enough to buy back and I can not afford or take a chance to take this truck out of town so I am going to be purchasing a GMC top kick with a Duramax. So maybe I can go to work everyday instead of waiting at the dealership for my truck to be fixed. The Ford dealer told ME if I can get a better deal some where else then I need to buy myself a different kind of truck. The Salesman at the Ford Dealer that I deal with is Dave Malloni. Whatever you do I suggest you not buy anything with a Ford Diesel in it...period.

Posted by: Greg Blythe | December 08, 2007 at 7:12 PM

Ford is just another excuse for calling a pickup truck a piece of crud. If someone says, "my diesel pickup broke" people ask, "do you got a ford?" Am I right. Ford diesels have always had problems, like the 6.0, they were built to fall apart. Ford tries to entise people into buying there super duties because they say they are the most capable. If anyone took the time to notice, there 550, 650, and 750 are classified as commercial vehicles, but undder the super duty title. Ford then tries to get people to buy there 450 pickup saying it is the most capable, ya, but at the expense of a huge vehicle weight, and already crappy 6.4 engine, and the engine gts detuned to 325 hp and 600 tq. Overall 2008 dodge diesel trucks are great. Even the old inline 5.9 is better than chevy and fords V8 pieces of crud. Go dodge 6.7 cummins. Plus dodge has the best front end as an added bonus. I can prove that dodge and cummins are the best combination of engine and truck. Just look at videos of dodge cummins tug of wars. Don't get me started on duracraps.

Posted by: K.L. | December 30, 2007 at 7:13 PM

Have a 1997 F250 7.3 ltr power stroke I haven't had a problem with the vehicle outside of a few small interior issues and routine matenance. The way I see it is these problems sure beat paying $40,000 for a new one only to be caught up in the problems due to lack of testing and engineering on Ford's part. My 3/4 ton has just as much power today as when it was purchased. I recently pulled a 18,000 lb backhoe with no problem.

Posted by: Jason Bedsole | February 16, 2008 at 7:58 AM

I remember looking at new dualies on 2003 but it wasn't until 2005 that I got serious and yes it was mainly due to the so called GM buydown. Test drove the 2003 F-350 and Dodge 2500. Both did ok and I liked the Ford but wasn't yet sure about the 6.0. The Cummins is a great motor no doubts there. The rest of the truck just left me cold. Then in 2005 while considering the GM's I drove a used 2003 Dodge 3500 dualley with 32k miles. Someone chipped it or something as it smoked up a storm(mind you this was before I started learning about diesel pickups,have learned much more since then) and at 75mph this thing started dancing on a 3 lane freeway. Not sure if someone turned back the odometer or just what but this beast shimmied so bad that people on the freeway scattered. Returned the truck to the stealer...no Dodges for me(side note, it amazes me now that GM has front end problems with the IRS sleeves but mainly in pumped up truck in 4 wheel drive). Anyway, finally went to drive the Chevy 3500( I didn't like the styling at first but have since grown to like it very much) and it felt just right to me. I didn't do a ton of research but after following the advent of the Duramax/Allison and the test drive, I was hooked. I don't work the truck hard or for a living but took my rv/truck combo across the scales at 25,700 lbs so It does pull the load pretty darn well. The trip across the scales was after I put Banks gear on it(PDA,4" EX, CAI) and pulled very well with a little better mpg. But prior to installing the Banks gear this truck pulled very well and the same load with ease.

Now if I were to build a truck it would probably be a 2003 F-350 or older, Cummins CRD with either a 6 speed manual or Allison( maybe even the newere Aisin trans). Others will complain I'm sure but the styling of the new Ford(interior and grill work) looks like crap IMO and the same with the Dodge. The 2008 GMC dually looks(those that like the other trucks might say the new GM's look like crap or are not a mans truck, your call), rides and has all the power and quality I need. But I still like the mileage and durability of the Cummins. Maybe I better buy a Freightliner if I sell what I have now.

Oh one more thought. This comes from the days of my youth when driving tractor/trailers. Lugging a diesel is a bad thing. Many people think it's cool to have all the black smoke and while a race truck might need all the fuel and smoke like that, a normal diesel shouldn't smoke like that. If you've got your foot in it and it's smoking, you're driving it like a gasser. Once a diesel starts pulling down in RPM and you're trying to get more power by pushing down on the fuel, you're lugging it. I contributed to breaking a crankshaft in a Cummins 350 and black soot on the trailer by lugging a semi and learned from that. Drop a gear and let the rpms come up. Diesels are happiest pulling a load in their powerband. If you have to drop to 45mph then just drop a gear and reduce the loading affect. Climbing hills with a load is not a race. Turn up the stereo and relax. If another diesel pickup passes you with a load, let it go and don't try to race em up the hill. I'm totally guilty of that. Ok enough of my rant. Just see too many people bashing other people and their trucks and there's no need for it. I drive what suits me and since I'm making the payments, my call. If you like the Ford or Dodge, good on ya. Both are very good trucks and have what you desire or you wouldn't have bought them. But if Ford were to put a Cummins 6.7 in their truck and redesign the interior and front end I'd be all over it. And yes I realize that Ford doens't own Cummins. If Dodge comes off contract with Cummins(and why would they) then maybe Ford could step up.

Posted by: Wayne | February 28, 2008 at 1:49 PM

In Britain, if you own a diesel powered pickup or sport ute, and choose to re-power, you can have just about any make of engine installed, adapters are readily available to mach any engine to any tranny.

Why cant we in north america do the same . then you could have your ford c/w cummins etc.

Posted by: R.W. | March 14, 2008 at 7:53 PM

I'm not going to get into the who has the best truck argument that some have started just drive what feels right to you.

In my opinion the 7.3L PS was the greatest diesel ever. I was sad to see it go in the last of 2002's and some very early 2003 models. This motor you could beat it, bang it, chip it, pull way more than the truck was rated for and the thing would not quit. But alas Chevy and Dodge came out or was developing new motor's with more horsepower than the 225hp that was cranking out of the 7.3L and Ford felt that a serious threat was upon them. International (who makes the 7.3, 6.0, and the new 6.4L) said that the 7.3 was took as far as it could have been took tech wise. I find that hard to believe since the new 4.4L that Ford is making in house itself is cranking out 320hp from 8 cylinders and over 400ft lbs of torque. Now it could have been Fords decision to go with a new motor back then and not Internationals who knows... bottom line is someone goofed up the 6.0 really bad, and didn't get most of the bugs worked out until mid point 2006. By that time the damage had been done. With the 6.4 I have been hearing a lot of positives about it instead of the negatives I heard about the 6.0... there was some bugs to work out but not all the problems that they had before.

As far as Chevy is concerned I have heard quite a lot... The motor is great but I know of at least 3 drivers within 25 miles of me that are working on their 3rd or 4th allison trannies. Not to mention that a lot of their Diesel Tech came from Isuzu. This would be just as bad as going and buying a Toyota. Ain't gonna happen...

The Cummings is great but somewhat of a fuel hog. I drive over the road for a living and the cummings I have had in my big trucks are not. Also factor in that the motor will outlast the truck by a factor of 3 to 1. Dodge has a solid diesel motor but the truck will never get the respect that Ford and Chevy gets for their pickups. Ford didn't lie when it says that it has the most pickups on the road with over 250,000 miles on them... and a majority are trucks with the 7.3L Diesel... Nuff said.

Posted by: S. K. | April 17, 2008 at 6:48 AM