GM’s Dream of Mid-Engine Corvette Not Off the Table
December 20, 2007
With General Motors Corp. unveiling the ultra-high performance ZR-1 and its six-figure price, the possibility of the next-generation Chevrolet Corvette moving to a more exotic mid-engine configuration still is being discussed at the highest levels of GM engineering, planning and marketing, sources close to the situation tell AutoObserver.
The iconic Corvette has used a classic front-engine/rear-drive layout since its inception in 1953. But some factions within the company believe the car should migrate to a mid-engine design for a variety of reasons, not all of them engineering-related.
It is a virtual assurance, however, that a mid-engine design would dictate a price point well in excess of $100,000 – a matter many at GM believe jettisons the Corvette’s heritage for quasi-affordability.
Earlier this month, Corvette chief engineer Tadge Juechter told AutoObserver a mid-engine Corvette is
being studied – but couched the confirmation by adding that at this point, the very broadest engineering possibilities still are at play.
“Nothing is off the table (right now),” Juechter says. But, “You hear ‘mid-engine’ every time there’s going to be a new-generation Corvette,” he laughs.
Juechter says arguments against moving the seventh-generation Corvette to a mid-engine layout are “not necessarily a cost issue,” however. But another well-placed GM source indicates some marketing scenarios for a mid-engine Corvette appear to be based on questionable divergence from today’s Corvette sales model.
The 2008 Corvette has a base price of $45,285 plus $825 destination. Last year, Chevrolet sold 36,518 Corvettes (that number is certain to drop this year, as the company sold 30,771 through November).
Some at GM believe a mid-engine Corvette at more twice or even three times the price of today’s car
would drastically alter the car’s potential sales volume. Exotic-car maker Ferrari sold just 1,635 cars in North America in 2006; Porsche’s 911, often cited as a competitor for the Corvette (despite the fact it costs much more) found 12,045 buyers in the U.S. last year.
More direct indicators of the prospects for an expensive, semi-exotic mid-engine car might be Audi AG’s recently launched R8, a V8-powered, mid-engine coupe starting at $109,000. Audi figures it will sell about 1,000 units in the U.S. annually. Or Ford Motor Co.’s mid-engine GT. A total of 4,038 were sold from 2005-2006, started at $139,995 – a price some sources outside GM believe would be more realistic for like-designed Corvette.
Moreover, critics of the decision to build the GT are certain it was not profitable even at almost $140,000.
Others outside GM question not only the possibility the company could produce a mid-engine Corvette at any price close to $100,000 – but the very wisdom of edging the Corvette into extremely low-volume, “exotic” territory with a mid-engine design.
“To take the Corvette off the market trajectory it’s been on for the last 50 years, you’d have to be insane,” insists John Coletti, former director of Ford’s Special Vehicle Team and longtime Ford engineer who led development of the GT. Coletti says at a consistent 30,000-40,000 units annually, the Corvette has the segment virtually to itself, and the Corvette is profitable at those volumes.
“What’s really the motivation for this?” he asks. “It can’t be to increase market share.” He says history suggests the potential market for high-priced, mid-engined cars tends to be small, and as such, cost amortized over such low volume ultimately dictates a high price – and that goes against the Corvette’s heritage for affordability.
Coletti says if GM’s true desire for a mid-engine Corvette is, on the other hand, to make a statement
about engineering capability – many mid-engine Corvette concept cars of the past suggested just that purpose – today’s technology means “doing a midship car is not the technological statement” it was perhaps 25 years ago, he insists.
Several major auto-industry suppliers who might have insight into GM’s ability to develop and manufacture an “affordable” mid-engine Corvette adamantly refused requests to discuss the subject. Coletti believes the manufacturing of a mid-engine Corvette also would be a hurdle to cost-effective production.
“I don’t know of anybody who can build a mid-engine and a front-engine car on the same line,” he says of one suggestion GM perhaps could build both a limited-run, mid-engine Corvette and a conventional-layout “standard” model at the company’s existing Bowling Green, KY, assembly plant. “You’re going to end up having a unique build facility for such a car,” Coletti says.
Corvette chief engineer Juechter, for now, won’t be drawn out about such details, although some sources suggest GM’s waffling about layout has contributed to pushing back by a year the launch of the seventh-generation ‘Vette, to the ’12 model year.
“There’s no firm decision. It’s still far enough out that we’re not even working on (a decision on configuration),” Juechter says, adding, “My job is to find the correct technical solution.”
Photos from General Motors
1- 4 - 5 Chevrolet introduces the 2009 Corvette ZR1, the fastest, most powerful automobile ever produced by General Motors. The Corvette ZR1 features an all-new LS9 supercharged 6.2L V-8 engine targeted to produce 620 horsepower and approximately 595 lb.-ft. of torque. The ZR1 is expected to be the first production Corvette to achieve a top speed of at least 200 mph.
2 - 1974 GM “Aerovette” Experimental Car showcases mid-engine layout. Copyright 2007 GM Corp. Used with permission, GM Media Archive.
3 - Corvette concept in GM Advance Vehicle Concepts studio, circa 1973, used 2-rotor Wankel engine in midship location. Copyright 2007 GM Corp. Used with permission, GM Media Archive.
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the corvette sells well and offers great performance for the dollar, but it lacks the appeal of the cars it is competing against. (albeit the competition is much more expensive) being in the tuner industry, i can make a honda civic outperform a ferrari for much less money, but its still a civic and its not something i care to drive. performance for the buck isn't everything for everyone. there are many other factors in making a great sports car. (and i know the automotive media knows what i am talking about)
The idea to move to mid-engine is definitely not a move to increase market share. It is a decision to make the car perform better. The ZR1 is an obvious indication of their intentions, but they can only do so much with this platform. The problem here is really the name and the heritage of the corvette name. IF they want to make a mid-engine supercar, the choice would be to place it parallel to or above the Corvette and call it something else... what happened to the Cadillac Cien Concept?
Look at Nissan, for decades the Skyline GT-R and Fairlady Z were basically equals. They co-existed and dominated the racing world in their own special way, the Z here in the US and the GT-R in Japan. Now, they have decided to make the GTR the flagship supercar, and the Z the everyman's sports car. The Corvette is the everyman's supercar and it lacks the sophistication and versatility that Porsche has with the 911 to be a jack of all trades... just accept it and move on.
Posted by: Huy | December 21, 2007 at 2:49 PM
* Make it perform better? 0-60=3.? > 600 HP? How much better you want?
At this stage, the vehicle performance is well beyond any of their customers abilities & talents. Arguably, the vehicle is already front mid ship with a reasonable weight distribution.
Think about this. You are over 40, divorced & you wanna spice up your life. What do you do? You buy a Vette. What happens next? You have an accident. When you have the engine in front of you, it is used as part of the crumple zone & cushions the occupants. When it is behind you, the weight of the engine wants to use you as the crumple zone! Check out wreckedexotics.com
Rear engined may be nice 5% of the time when you are on the track. But when you want to USE your vehicle as many do, im not sure if the exponential engineering costs are worth it.
Chevy stands for VALUE. Mid engined will place it in a different $ category. Which would you rather have, a mid engine Chevy Corvette or a used Ferrari? Please don't take away the only affordable supercar! :(
Posted by: LUCKY STRIKE | December 21, 2007 at 5:25 PM
GM has the best and best known North American Sports Car that I feel is alot more bang for the buck than most of those foreign autos that people mostly pay for the name. GM do not mess with the structure of the Vette, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Please leave it where it is still affordable for the average guy to save up for several years to buy.
Wilkie
Posted by: Larry Wilkinson | December 21, 2007 at 7:53 PM
With the new fuel economy standards staring GM in the face, the next Corvette may look and feel a whole lot like a Fiero - which is a whole 'nuther kinda mid-engined sports car none of us wanna see again.
Posted by: DCP | December 21, 2007 at 10:00 PM
“I don’t know of anybody who can build a mid-engine and a front-engine car on the same line,”
Other than Honda?
Posted by: David Thompson | December 24, 2007 at 5:33 PM
Everyone keeps talking about cost as the reason for not building a mid-engine Corvette. However, here is what Dave McLellan, former Corvette chief engineer said about mid-engine Corvette cost:
“When we got to the C5 Corvette, I told [designer Jerry] Palmer that if he wanted to do a mid-engine Corvette, I would support it because I knew we knew how to do it and do it well. In the end, it would have been easier to do than the front-mid- engine rear-drive that we came up with and it wouldn’t have cost a nickel more. That a mid-engine car would cost more than a front-engine car is basically phooey." (See the August 2007 edition of Winding Road).
I am going to believe the word of the former Corvette chief engineer above all others who have never even worked in automobile manufacturing, notwithstanding never making it to the level of Corvette chief engineer. I therefore strongly support moving the Corvette to a mid-engine platform.
I have compared a Porche Boxter and a Corvette (C5) on the same windy road. In the mid-engine Boxter, I sat much closer to the front of the car and felt very in control. In the Corvette, due to its long hood, I sat aft of the car's centerline. This was fine for going in a strait line, but when the road got twisty, I felt much less in control than I did in the Boxter. Consequently, I drove through that section of the road much faster in the Boxter than I did in the Corvette, even though the Corvette had more torque and horsepower.
Now, can you imagine having a car that handles like a Boxter, but with the same torque, horsepower and base price as a Corvette. That is what I would like to see!
Posted by: Terry | December 27, 2007 at 8:19 AM
I think that the Corvette should stay as is, and use the make the next generation Cadillac XLR a mid-engined sports car. The corvette has a history, and the XLR has a price tag, might as well get something for it. I will be really amazed if they can do a mid-engine layout with a retractable hardtop.
Posted by: Ian | December 27, 2007 at 12:02 PM
I like all generations of Corvettes and own a C4 ZR-1. It still outperforms most cars on the road, so I don't see a need to switch to mid-engine. But I would like to see Chevrolet hire someone to design windshield wipers for the Corvette that work...
Posted by: Gary | December 27, 2007 at 7:00 PM
Never say never to the mid-engine vette. The XLR is built on a seperate line with a volume of 2000 units annually and it is a slow seller currently. GM could build a mid-engine vette and cien there while still building a front engine on the regular line.
Posted by: gtjeff | January 07, 2008 at 9:57 PM