Time, Competition Rub Sheen from Accord, Corolla

By Dale Buss 2008_honda_accord_180

Toyota Corolla and Honda Accord are icons of the Japanese automakers’ rise to U.S. market dominance over the last generation — reliable performers on the road, steady draws in the showroom, dependably lauded by public and press alike. And the OEMs have just produced a new generation of each venerable model.

2009_toyota_corolla_172 But the long, long run of success could be nearing an end for both Accord and Corolla. Year-to-date sales are off for each nameplate more than for each OEM overall. Proliferating competition — some from sibling models — is squeezing them. Consumer consideration of Corolla or Accord doesn’t translate as predictably as before into purchase. High gasoline prices and a shaky economy have roiled the picture still further.

66corolla240_2 And it could just be that, well, Americans are tiring of vehicles that have been around since 1966, in the case of Corolla, and since 1976 in the case of Accord. Some Detroit Three nameplates have been retired and then resuscitated in that time span.

“They may just have been around too long,” said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research, an industry think tank in Ann Arbor, Mich. “It’s too early to tell a definitive story about them, but it’s pretty clear that something is going on.”

76accord240 Neither Toyota nor Honda is publicly conceding a thing about the fate and future of such crucial pieces of their lineup. After all, Toyota introduced a restyled tenth generation of Corolla to the U.S. market in January, and Honda launched a redesigned Accord last fall. And Toyota put Corolla on a mighty big pedestal last month when it featured the car in one of its two Super Bowl ads.

But Gary Robinson, senior product planner for American Honda, does allow as how “it’s been an interesting ride the last couple of months watching (Accord sales) and trying to understand” the dynamics.

Crowding Corolla
Corolla sales slid by 28 percent in February and by 24 percent for the first two months of this year, compared with 2007; Toyota’s overall car sales, including the Scion brand, were off by only 7 percent and 6 percent, respectively. Both companies will report March sales on Tuesday.

One big reason clearly is the old-model Corolla was in sell-down mode during that period because the new Corolla just became available in January — hence the Super Bowl ad.

But more than just a model switch appears to underlie Corolla’s troubling dip. Despite the appeal of a new version and broad advertising support, for example, Toyota has decided to provide relatively generous incentives on the 2009 Corolla — an average of nearly $1,000 on a Total Cost of Incentives basis, as calculated by Edmunds.com using a proprietary formula. List prices for the car range from $15,250 to $19,950, according to Edmunds.com

“That’s OK, but it’s a bit concerning because these are high incentives for a new model,” said Jessica Caldwell, sales analyst for Edmunds.com. “Sometimes Toyota’s TCIs are as low as $100.”

One particular problem for Corolla is the California auto market, in particular, is “dead in the water,” said Art Spinella, president of CNW Research, an automotive-market research firm in Bandon, Ore. “And that market was always one of the strongest for Corolla.”

More similar models are crowding Corolla. The nameplate had less than a 9 percent share of the compact segment in February; normally, Corolla grabs at least 10 percent, Caldwell said. Five years ago Corolla buyers had an average of just 3.1 vehicles on their shopping lists, including Corolla, according to CNW’s research; in the last quarter of 2007, that figure was up to 4.9.

Among new competitors to Corolla that are worthier than rival compacts from years past are Chevrolet Cobalt and Nissan Versa. Even Toyota itself may be a culprit: Its Yaris subcompact, introduced in 2006, “may be eating into Corolla sales,” Caldwell said, because it is less expensive and offers better fuel economy, and it’s still a Toyota. Yaris sales grew 64 percent in February and 48 percent for the first two months of 2008.

Targeting Twenty-somethings 09corolla240
Toyota is trying to thwart the drag on Corolla in at least a couple of ways. First is a new approach to design, expressed in the 2009 version. “It’s lower, and the character lines are more flowing,” is how Toyota spokeswoman Cindy Knight described it. “It’s more aerodynamic than ever before, with a slightly wider stance. It’s more eye-catching, because often our styling is called vanilla.”

Small-car design, however, is a moving target, Caldwell pointed out. “They’re more stylish than they used to be,” she said, but even the newly tweaked Corolla isn’t as compelling as some others.

Second, Toyota is goosing Corolla marketing. Its target is “more of a mainstream consumer than for Scion or (Toyota) Matrix,” Knight said. Ages are 18 to 49, with a “sweet spot” of 26 years old, a young professional just starting to make it in their field. They’re very much into success, and style-conscious.” She called Corolla’s customer base “youthful, optimistic and upwardly mobile.” (Toyota executives declined to comment for this story.)

As part of identifying with twenty-something targets, Knight said, Toyota is presenting Corolla “not only as more stylish but also more in tune with their self-image. One of our key tactics is using humor.” So TV advertising appears, among other places, on cable TV’s Comedy Channel and the show Adult Swim.

“Our unifying theme is mock pretension, poking fun at to-the-manor-born silliness,” Knight said. Thus, Toyota created a “crest” for the new, tenth-generation model, “Corolla X.” And its new ad, popular during the Super Bowl, uses a caricatured old-money backdrop to set up an incongruous demonstration of Corolla’s interior quiet featuring a momma badger and a very nervous driver. The voiceover concludes with "Live the dream — for less coin."

Toyota also is ramping up digital-marketing efforts to reach what Knight called Corolla’s “very connected audience.” That includes advertising online at sites including The Onion, YouTube and Myspace as well as “hosting” some comedy channels on Google, and a growing number of mobile applications. Corolla has 20-some interactive-advertising initiatives, Knight said, more than for any other Toyota nameplate.

Despite all of this, however, Corolla’s forward motion may be slowing inexorably. The younger consumer who historically considered Corolla, Spinella said, “is now looking for something with a bit more buzz.”

Supply-constrained Accord
Accord sales dropped by about 10 percent for the first two months of 2008 compared with 2007; 08accord240_2 Honda’s overall car sales drifted down by only about 1 percent.

Honda is confident it understands at least a couple factors in Accord’s short-term distress. First, with the new model introduced in September, the automaker has eliminated the huge incentives it was offering on the nameplate a year ago. Edmunds.com reported the average Total Cost of Incentives for Accord was under $500 in February compared with a peak of more than $2,000 in June. TCI includes dealer as well as factory incentives.

Honda’s Robinson said Accord incentives last year averaged $1,500. Though he said that was “half of what our competitors’ incentives were,” he noted, “typically for Accord, incentives would be something like $500.” And for the new 2008 model, factory incentives are “zero,” he said.

Also last year, in part to clear the way for the new model, Honda operated a dealer-incentive program it called Accord Challenge “to try to pump up some excitement with the car,” Robinson said. And it offered a $199-a-month lease on the LX version for most of the year. “That’s the cost of lease that you now see,” he said, “for competitors’ cars that cost only $20,000 to $21,000 at retail. List prices for Accord range up to $30,510, according to Edmunds.com.

A second reason Accord’s sales numbers have been disappointing so far this year, Robinson said, is Honda has gotten caught in a bit of a powertrain mismatch. Strong demand for the V6 version “has taken us by surprise,” he said. Turnover is very quick for the V6, and grosses are “very high,” he said. But although executives are happy about the development, to this point a supply-constrained Honda hasn’t been able to keep up with demand.

“From 2004 through 2006, we sold about 30 percent of Accord sedans with a V6, but since then the percentage had fallen to about 25 percent,” Robinson said. “With gasoline prices moving higher still, we were expecting that sort of percentage to continue with this new model, so that’s what we’ve been building: about 25 percent V6s in the four-door.”

But a couple of things tripped up Honda’s assumptions. First, Honda’s Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) feature on the V6 — in which some engine cylinders shut down when their power isn’t needed, boosting fuel economy — has proven popular, and the difference in fuel economy between a VCM six-cylinder engine and the Accord’s four-cylinder powertrain is only two miles a gallon. “Our customers tend to be pretty high income and education levels,” Robinson said, “so a lot of them are influenced by VCM.”

Moreover, Honda had assumed with the economy getting more tenuous, “consumers would really be emphasizing lower-priced models, and that would be where the demand was. But this particular Accord, with larger size and premium styling, was designed in part to appeal to people who might want to come out of luxury cars and higher-end SUVs because of fuel prices or financial wariness. This strategy has worked. “And that buyer is pretty much only willing to consider the V6 in an Accord,” Robinson said.

Still another factor contributing to the V6 squeeze is the new Accord benefits less than previous generations from an influx upward into its segment from compact cars. Historically, about 10 percent of Accords are sold to former owners of the compact Honda Civic, Robinson said. “But as people are more worried about their finances, and the price of gas, people in the compact segment are much more likely now to stay in that segment than to move up,” he said. “So our inflow (to Accord) from compact cars has actually dropped off quite a bit.”

All told, Robinson said, “Our intuitive expectation about V6 sales is that as the economy declines, you shift lower in terms of mix and engine choices. But since what we’ve been losing is compact buyers moving up to Accord, and what we’ve been gaining is downsizers, it almost goes the other way.”

In any event, Honda is still limited by the availability of a few Japanese-made components for the V6. But Robinson said the company is determined to make more V6s available in the new Accord. “I think if we can produce more, we can sell more,” he said.

Doubting the Malibu
The V6 constraints, though, aren’t the whole story of Accord’s troubles, others said. For one thing, the rest of Honda’s lineup is providing more competition than before to budget-minded buyers, including not only the classic Civic but also the new subcompact Fit. “In hard times, they are better competition for Accord,” said Caldwell, of Edmunds.com. “and Civic is plenty big.”

Consumer consideration for Accord competitors also is rising. Until two years ago the typical Accord shopper's list had 2.1 vehicles on it, CNW said, and the other usually was Toyota Camry — the compact that has been the nation’s best-selling car for several years running. But in the final quarter of 2007, that shopper’s list had expanded to an average of 3.4 vehicles.

Increasingly the other cars on those shopping lists are from the Detroit Three, including Ford Fusion, Saturn Aura and the new Chevrolet Malibu, the last of which car-poor GM specifically targeted to take on Accord and Camry more aggressively than ever before.

“These are good cars, and so consumers’ choice range is significantly increased from where it was just a year or two ago,” said Cole, of the Center for Automotive Research.

Robinson conceded Fusion, as well as Hyundai Sonata, are coming up on more Accord shoppers’ consideration lists these days. “But for the most part,” he maintained, “our shoppers are pretty much shopping between Accord, Camry and (Nissan) Altima. There are others on the list, but they tend to be second- or third-level choices. And at this point Malibu, though a good car, isn’t yet that significant for us.”

The entire compact segment in which Accord resides “has become really good; there are a lot of really good cars that offer a ton of value,” Robinson said. “It’s probably one of the best value segments in the entire industry. That’s increased competition for (Accord), but for us so far there hasn’t been much impact.”

Well, then, what about the significantly streamlined styling of the new Accord compared with its predecessors? Spinella, of CNW, said the “core buyer” of Accord has been “older buyers looking for a generally conservatively styled vehicle.” And those buyers, he maintained, “have pulled back substantially” on Accord in part because “they find it to be too aggressively styled.”

Again, Robinson begged to differ. “So far,” he said, “we’ve gotten almost 100 percent good feedback on the styling.”

Nevertheless, said Spinella, Accord’s historically hefty pricing — meaning, among other things, Honda’s return to sparse incentives on the nameplate — will be tested in coming months. “Because Honda resists incentives, the price differential between Accord and most other models in the category (is) even wider,” he said. “Today’s buyer puts price and monthly payment ahead of virtually all other immediate attributes.”•

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In the case of the Corolla, I think it's simply because there are better models out there. The Mazda 3 is just as reliable, far more stylish, far more fun to drive and faster. The only reason to choose a Corolla over a Mazda 3 is the price and fuel economy. If I can afford a Mazda 3, I won't consider the Corolla. The Lancer and Civic are also arguably more exciting than the Corolla...and just as reliable.

With the Accord, it's trickier. The Accord is one of the better mid-sized vehicles out there and the styling is no longer boring. Maybe it's because there are now so many good choices in that segment.

Posted by: John | March 31, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Excellent article - about time the Corolla took a dive. It is old technology repackaged every few years in a relatively dowdy design. Who has rear drum brakes in this day and age - answer the Corolla. No other compact or mid-sized car does.

Posted by: Guy Atherton | March 31, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Corolla's issue: The Honda Civic and Mazda3 are just far better vehicles. What's left? Corolla - the old people's small car.

Accord's issue: I think the supply issue has much to do with it. The other? It's in-house competition is so damn good - The Odyssey, Civic and CR-V are in their greatest iterations ever and people are noticing. It's hard for it to win just at the Honda dealer.

Posted by: Double Wishbone | March 31, 2008 at 11:32 AM

I'm looking to replace a 2001 Mazda 626, hopefully this summer. The new car will be driven 25 - 40,000 miles per year, so overall cost of ownership and fuel economy are critical.

Accord continues to grow and in the last couple of generations has gotten too big and just too much for my taste. I'm not interested in a Japanese Buick. In my opinion, Accord has lost it's way. The original concept of an intelligent alternative to motor city metal is completely missing. Even a loyal buyer of Accords and friend remarked that its gotten too big and that he should have went with a Civic. With $4 per gallon gas prices looming, mileage in the low 20's, even with V6 performance, doesn't cut it with me either. Why hasen't the diesel been introduced yet?

I drove the 9th generation Corolla for a month. It was just OK, for a grandma car. Reliability and good fuel economy are the only redeeming qualities. If it wasn't for the good Toyota dealership in my town, it wouldn't get a 2nd thought. It's just so dull! (And I'm a short pudgy 51 year old balding guy.) The concensus from the Edmunds forums is that we've waited too long to get so very little gain with the 10th generation. For much less you can get an xD or xB and not haggle over price from the same dealership. And beyond are many other, much more intriguing options.

Posted by: mcmanus | March 31, 2008 at 4:27 PM

The Corolla is simply too mediocre to live up to its overhyped Consumer Reports marketing. My cousin named her Corolla "Mable", and there is really no better name to illustrate how boring, stodgy, and just generally depressing the car is. The new Corolla's performance variant can't even compete with the performance of its competitors bottom trim levels. Its styling is as boring as ever. The interior quality, like most current Toyota interiors, is ok/good but not great. Quality and reliability will likely be as poor as the rest of Toyota's lineup. All it has is pretty good fuel economy. That's a good selling point, but not enough to make up for all of its flaws. Given the choice between a Civic and a Corolla, I'd take the Honda without a second thought. Between my Cobalt and the Corolla, I'd gladly stick with what I have. Between the Mazda 3 and the Corolla? The Corolla simply isn't worthy to be compared to that greatness.

The Accord is a little tougher to explain. I think the segment did get much more competitive. Maybe the Fusion and Malibu aren't converting many import fans, but they have certainly slowed the flow of domestic buyers switching to imports. Also, the Civic is moving into midsize range and the Accord is moving into fullsize range, and their volumes reflect that. The Civic is perfectly sized to appeal to young buyers as well as people who would normally upgrade to a midsize. However, the Accord is large enough to appeal to those looking to step down from luxo yachts and SUVs, so maybe the size isn't the problem. The one obvious flaw is the styling. There is no getting around the fact the car is simply ugly. It think it is a great car and would otherwise be interested in buying one, but it is simply too repulsive for me to even consider being seen in it or have it seen in my parking spot.

Posted by: Tyler | March 31, 2008 at 8:55 PM

as the article shows, cars like the Accord and Corolla sell because many owners dont cross shop them with the competition. MY guess is the Accord's sales are slowing because people are finally waking up to the fact that there are more than two good midsize cars on the market. The Honda exec downplays the Malibu but you can rest assured that the Malibu is preventing some people drom jumping into an accord. The Malibu has only been on sale for 6-7 months so I think it has a chance to do much more damage to the Accord in the long term. For 2009 the 6 speed will be available on the 2LT model which will give the Malibu I-4 better mileage. It's also getting bluetooth on the 2LT and LTZ models which is something many import fans want on their vehicles.

The corolla is simply a mediocre car that has little appeal to younger folks. On top of that Toyota is still offering the car with a 4 speed automatic and beam axle suspension. The Cobalt takes a lot of knocks for offering the same thing but the Cobalt is a 4 year old car. The corolla should be much better in the interior quality department as well. Its a car designed by a company that is obviously resting on its laurels.

Posted by: sheth | April 01, 2008 at 5:26 AM

Why have we dropped the "the" when referring to cars? That's really annoying to read Accord this and Corolla that. THE Accord. THE Corolla.

Posted by: John | April 01, 2008 at 7:52 AM

Talk about a sensationalist article.

"One big reason clearly is the old-model Corolla was in sell-down mode during that period because the new Corolla just became available in January — hence the Super Bowl ad.

But more than just a model switch appears to underlie Corolla’s troubling dip. Despite the appeal of a new version and broad advertising support, for example, Toyota has decided to provide relatively generous incentives on the 2009 Corolla — an average of nearly $1,000 on a Total Cost of Incentives basis, as calculated by Edmunds.com using a proprietary formula."

That is exactly the reason. Production of the new Corolla is still ramping up. Despite the fact that the new Corolla launched in January, many dealers did not recieve the new Corolla until late February. Lets wait and see how March sales are like before jumping to conclusions. When the new Camry came out, people were making similar silly assumptions, because it took a few months for the new Camry's sales to pick up speed. Now Camry sales are stronger than ever. Give the Corolla a few months and it will pick up speed.

As for the incentives mentioned, is that ONLY for the 2009 model or does it include the 2008 Corolla as well? As far as I know there are no factory incentives on the new 2008 Corolla.

" Who has rear drum brakes in this day and age - answer the Corolla. No other compact or mid-sized car does."

Check your facts. The Civic also comes with rear drum brakes and only top-model Civics have disks all around. Top model Corollas also get discs all around.

"Quality and reliability will likely be as poor as the rest of Toyota's lineup."

Is this an early April Fool's joke? Despite some problems, Toyota STILL has some of the best quality and reliability in the industry. You only make yourself look silly by making such statements.

Posted by: realist | April 01, 2008 at 9:51 AM

I can understand the new Accord's failure, as it looks too stodgy. The nose & hood sheetmetal was raised for better performance with a pedestrian impact (more crash space before hitting hard points) but they didn't pull off the job well.

The Corrolla has always said about it's owner "I am not into cars, I need transportation"
To a certain extent this statement can be said of all Toyota products.

Posted by: Mtech | April 01, 2008 at 1:27 PM

I agree with one poster that this is nothing but a sensationalist article. The Corolla and Accord have just started their latest iteration a few months ago in an economically challenged environment. In a few years time we will see how well they really do. And IMHO the Chevy Malibu is really overhyped and overrated.

There is one poster who drives a Chevy Colbolt who thinks the Corolla is boring , the Accord is ugly and repulsive and all Toyota products have poor quality and reliability. His views obviously are biased against Toyota products like many American car fans and therefore his opinion like so many other immature American car fan posters on Edmunds forums have very little credibility.

Posted by: Jack | April 01, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Jack, if you're going to make ignorant judgments about me without knowing me, the least you could do is spell my car's name right.

The Corolla is boring. I don't think anyone can really say it is exciting. Exciting compared to a whitewashed soundproofed empty room? Maybe. But compared to any other car? Of course not. It is basic transportation; nothing more than an appliance to move you from point A to point B.

I'll give that styling is subjective, but I'm definitely not alone in thinking that the Honda styling guys really screwed up here. Other than the styling and the size (I prefer smaller) I think it is a great car. I like other Honda products too. I think the Fit is the best subcompact on the market, the Civic is in a tight race with a few other cars for the best compact car, and the new hybrids sound promising. I'm also a huge Mazda fan. They really don't have a product I don't like.

I will defend my argument against Toyota's quality and reliability. I'm sorry, but when you have faulty seatbelts in your vans, faulty steering in your hybrid, side airbags in your coupe that deploy if the door is shut too hard, camshafts, transmissions, and tailgates that break in your brand new "will destroy all competitors" truck, reliable is not a word I would use to describe you. As far as quality, the Edmunds.com editors had a number of complaints about interior quality in their Long Term Camry. Argue that if you will, but I personally consider Honda interiors to offer much higher quality.

So just because I don't like Toyota and drive a Chevy, my views aren't valid? Since when did bowing down to Toyota become a requirement for being able to comment? Then you try to dismiss me as just an American car fan. Did you not notice all my praise for Honda and Mazda? I think their cars are great. I'm sorry that you can't handle criticism of your car, but trying to pin me as a fanboy is the pot calling the silverware black.

Posted by: Tyler | April 01, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Tyler:
"I will defend my argument against Toyota's quality and reliability. I'm sorry, but when you have faulty seatbelts in your vans, faulty steering in your hybrid, side airbags in your coupe that deploy if the door is shut too hard, camshafts, transmissions, and tailgates that break in your brand new "will destroy all competitors" truck, reliable is not a word I would use to describe you."

and exactly HOW MANY vehicles were affected, as a percentage of total toyota sales?

compared to the many tens of thousands of detroit iron with numerous and LONG UNRESLOVED defects?

clue: in the case of tundra camshafts, LESS than 30.

in charts prepared by CR, most car manufacturers' products have 100 problems per 100 vehicles between 5 and 7 years of age. this includes even AUDI (combined with vw), ford, chrysler and gm (including everything from cadillacs down).

honda (including acura) doesn't attain this level of problems until between 10 and 11 years.

toyota/lexus is OFF THE CHART. by projecting the line, they finally get to 100probs/100 at SEVENTEEN (17) YEARS. one could go thru about THREE crappy chevys in that time period.

Posted by: Apex Alex | April 02, 2008 at 3:41 AM

This writer will eat crow next year when the Corolla becomes best selling vehicle in America.This year it will be the Camry taking the F150s spot.

Posted by: middleoroad | May 25, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Here's the proof that the new Corolla is headed for the charts http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/by-the-numbers-may-2008-f-150-falls-edition/

Posted by: middleoroad | June 05, 2008 at 5:40 PM

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